In exploring this new dynamic between me and partner, there has been a lot of learning to work with another person, with a different communication style, different and sometimes overlapping sexual desires, different priorities, different wants, different needs. These are all probably obvious things integral to any sexual relationship, but my inexperience is making it all new and profound. It is both shnazzy and sometimes uncomfortable. Deep conditioning I didn’t even know about pops up when I least expect, which is both uncomfortable and good, because then I can work on getting rid of it.
My masochism has unexpectedly reared its head, making demands like “Scratch me! Bite me! Now! FEED ME.” I took my flogger to myself once, but it’s not nearly as good as when someone else does it, because swinging it over your shoulders you can only really hit two spots.
Interestingly, lately I’ve met more discomfort about my masochism than my sadism. Unexpected. “I like to give pain to other people” is met with “Uh-huh,” and a look that suggests with sufficient counseling I would get over it. “I like to give pain to myself” gets hysterical giggling, the covering of eyes, and “Let’s not talk about it!” Had the good-pain/bad-pain discussion yesterday.
One of the things that really threw me as the dynamic began was the fact that I didn’t reach my dominant headspace. When I first started exploring with other people, I reached that space and took it for granted that, ‘Oh, this is what they call topspace.’ And then suddenly I didn’t have that, and I was like, “Uhhhh… What?” I realized how much I wanted and needed that, if not in this relationship, then in others. I tried describing reaching that altered psycho-emotional-bodily state to a couple of non-kinky people, and the best way they could understand it was as a transcendental spiritual state. Which, maybe it is, but it’s certainly not any more spiritual than anything else. Eating and walking are spiritual too.
I did reach the headspace with my partner once. We were not having sex at the time, but then again we almost were. Usually pain has been the catalyst for getting me in headspace, but I wasn’t hurting them at all, wasn’t even fantasizing about pain. I was feeling dominant, and that they were mine, and that my lungs had expanded to fill my entire body and I was breathing through my skin. And that I was breathing them into my skin. They weren’t submitting to me, or even bottoming to me, but they were responding, and on some level I’ve never reached before we were matching up in our interaction.
Before I was suddenly bereft of it, I thought that the headspace was the headspace, and that it was this solid, static thing, when now I’m realizing that I was just paddling in the first few feet of water. I profoundly want to explore this space, where it goes, how deep it goes, where the boundaries and limits are, how those boundaries can be stretched, and what kind of spiritual gymnastics I can do there.
I asked this over at Thumper’s, but why is it ’subspace’ and ‘topspace?’ I have never heard of ‘bottomspace’ or ‘domspace.’ What does that signify, if anything?
Dw3t Hthr was discussing how safewords did not work for her because:
The thing with me and safewords is that if I’m in a position where I might want to use one, I’m almost certainly not in a position where I’m capable of using one. (The other thing with me and safewords is that if I’m verbality-enabled, I’m quite competent to say, “You don’t want to be doing that” or something similar about a boundary-crossing behaviour, and I’m not generally engaged in stuff that would require something other than plain language to communicate.) I alter state so significantly that the safety latch option doesn’t come up on possible options.
She described her own subspace as:
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And then she said this:
For someone like me, for whom nonverbal trust state is one of the fundamental components – indeed one of the desired goals – of submission, trying to frame that all through the safeword lens breaks it.
And Violacious said something very similar.
D/s, I think, is intrinsically about the place where consent meets trust meets faith. In the deep thick smouldering submissive moment, for me faith overtakes the power of meaningful consent, which is why trust placed in my partner is crucial to act as an intermediary between those two terms.
What all of this brings up for me is that I want that. I want to be able to go that deep into my dominant headspace. But as Dw3t Hthr says about her space:
And this is a giant lump of dangerous mental juju to propose to drop on someone, asking them to hold that safe space, to create that dissolved and fluid state and to keep it from being ripped apart. This is not easy, and this is not a small magic. But where does one learn this shit?
And now I’m going to go to a place where I might get yelled at my some submissive people. I have no idea if this is entirely un-PC.
I’ve heard reference to dominant people holding a safe space for submissive people many times, which I’m willing and eager to do. But what about submissive partners holding a safe space for dominant partners? Granted I’ve only played in the shallows of headspace, but I have never gone so deep that I could not become verbal again, pull myself out at the sound of a safeword or even the idea that my partner was feeling bad-pain and not good-pain. And it’s not that I want to reach a place where I couldn’t respect a safeword if it was given. For me safewords have worked very well as a mutually clear way of communicating boundaries with someone I don’t necessarily know very well. If I needed to, I would safeword as a dominant.
I’ve discussed this with a group of dominants when I was living in the City (the starting topic was aftercare for dominants/tops), and most of the responses I got were that the dominant/top partner is the one responsible for both themselves and the submissive/bottom, while the submissive/bottom is only responsible for themselves, and sometimes not even then, because they’re in subspace. And on one level this makes sense to me, because many times the dominant/top is the one doing the tying up, the beating, the sexy verbal thrashing. But on another, much more personal level, it doesn’t make sense to me that one partner can go as deep as they need while the other partner holds the safe space for them, and the other partner can’t.
How would that work, someone, a possibly tied-up someone possibly faced with an implement of smacking, hold a safe-space for a dominant person, so they can go as deep as they need? I imagine some people would say it’s dangerous, since the one is tied up and all and the other has an implement. But really, I don’t think that if I sank as deep as I could go into my dominance I would start carving bacon out of someone. I don’t think I would lose my ability to recognize physical, emotional, and mental boundaries and read body-language. Of course, d/s in no way has to include binding or smacking, but for many people it does, and I enjoy both.
Graydon said in the comments of Dw3t Hthr’s post on safewords,
I don’t think “submissive” is always the right term; sometimes what is wanted, or what’s going on, might be better described as “responsibility transfer”. The point is not to do what you’re told; the point is not to have to decide.
I don’t think Graydon was discussing responsibility in the same way I am here, but it’s another place where I’ve encountered the idea one partner is supposed to be responsible for everything so the other doesn’t have to be. I’m projecting d/s on that, which I’m not sure is what they meant.
So I’m really curious to see what any of you might have to say on the subject, if you’ve ever encountered it in yourselves, your partners, or others. Where and when can the responsibility shift from a dominant partner to a submissive partner? How can a dominant person go deep into their headspace while still being cognizant of the logistics of their partner’s subspace, joint angles and circulation, and application of pain? Should that responsibility always be the dominant person’s? Can a dominant partner have that level of immersive experience while still holding that kind of responsibility?