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	<description>an archeological excavation of the nature of a sadistic and dominant creature</description>
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		<title>By: It Never Rains &#171; beyond the hills</title>
		<link>http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/i-am-jealous-of-vanilla-people/#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>It Never Rains &#171; beyond the hills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Laying my sexuality out on the table in non-kinky terms to both of these people, it seemed that there were a few overlapping sexual interests. One found the idea of a dominant partner very hot, one was curious about being a receptive sexual partner, and neither was immediately opposed to pain, though neither did they seem to crave it. Both were open to poly, though one admitted that they sometimes struggled with jealousy and competitiveness, and the other had seen polyarmory explode horribly from a distance. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Laying my sexuality out on the table in non-kinky terms to both of these people, it seemed that there were a few overlapping sexual interests. One found the idea of a dominant partner very hot, one was curious about being a receptive sexual partner, and neither was immediately opposed to pain, though neither did they seem to crave it. Both were open to poly, though one admitted that they sometimes struggled with jealousy and competitiveness, and the other had seen polyarmory explode horribly from a distance. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ranat</title>
		<link>http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/i-am-jealous-of-vanilla-people/#comment-528</link>
		<dc:creator>ranat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@subversive sub - 

&quot;it would be a lot easier for you to find a sub man if you weren’t also bothered by the gender politics of the vast majority of sub men out there (for example). And building an actual relationship gets even trickier–finding a sexually compatible man who’s also anti-civ or anarchist or at least has *some* affinity with radical politics?&quot;

This is the part where I was getting really frustrated. I felt like I was either in one world or the other, with no happy mixture. I was especially afraid of being condemned by people in anti-civ circles. But the guy in the last conversation I described said something that really resonated with me: If I discuss my sexuality coming from a place of fear, then the people around me will probably react from a place of fear. Now obviously my own attitude about my sexuality will not always assuage people&#039;s fears, but it does make sense to me that if I treat it matter of factly and as an integrated part of me, people who know me will be more likely to feel comfortable around that part of me. Plus the exercise will help me heal through the lingering consequences of my self-repression.

&quot;(Not to mention the fact that a lot of the vocabulary wouldn’t even really make sense to someone who wasn’t already steeped in that culture.)&quot;

Yeah, I kept finding myself about to blurt an acronym into these conversations, and I was like, &quot;Wait...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@subversive sub &#8211; </p>
<p>&#8220;it would be a lot easier for you to find a sub man if you weren’t also bothered by the gender politics of the vast majority of sub men out there (for example). And building an actual relationship gets even trickier–finding a sexually compatible man who’s also anti-civ or anarchist or at least has *some* affinity with radical politics?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the part where I was getting really frustrated. I felt like I was either in one world or the other, with no happy mixture. I was especially afraid of being condemned by people in anti-civ circles. But the guy in the last conversation I described said something that really resonated with me: If I discuss my sexuality coming from a place of fear, then the people around me will probably react from a place of fear. Now obviously my own attitude about my sexuality will not always assuage people&#8217;s fears, but it does make sense to me that if I treat it matter of factly and as an integrated part of me, people who know me will be more likely to feel comfortable around that part of me. Plus the exercise will help me heal through the lingering consequences of my self-repression.</p>
<p>&#8220;(Not to mention the fact that a lot of the vocabulary wouldn’t even really make sense to someone who wasn’t already steeped in that culture.)&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, I kept finding myself about to blurt an acronym into these conversations, and I was like, &#8220;Wait&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: subversive_sub</title>
		<link>http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/i-am-jealous-of-vanilla-people/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>subversive_sub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you. And the problem gets exponentially worse the farther out you are from the mainstream in other ways: it would be a lot easier for you to find a sub man if you weren&#039;t also bothered by the gender politics of the vast majority of sub men out there (for example). And building an actual relationship gets even trickier--finding a sexually compatible man who&#039;s also anti-civ or anarchist or at least has *some* affinity with radical politics? (I&#039;m feeling pretty damn lucky right now...)

Also, this: &quot;I challenged myself to describe my dominance to him without using the vocabulary of the subculture. Like the tropes of kink, the vocabulary of kink is not mine. It might be a useful tool, some of it might crudely describe what I feel, but it really cannot be accurate to me.&quot;

I think I don&#039;t do this nearly often enough. I have definitely adopted a lot of mainstream BDSM vocabulary for simplicity&#039;s sake, and that does bother me. (Not to mention the fact that a lot of the vocabulary wouldn&#039;t even really make sense to someone who wasn&#039;t already steeped in that culture.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you. And the problem gets exponentially worse the farther out you are from the mainstream in other ways: it would be a lot easier for you to find a sub man if you weren&#8217;t also bothered by the gender politics of the vast majority of sub men out there (for example). And building an actual relationship gets even trickier&#8211;finding a sexually compatible man who&#8217;s also anti-civ or anarchist or at least has *some* affinity with radical politics? (I&#8217;m feeling pretty damn lucky right now&#8230;)</p>
<p>Also, this: &#8220;I challenged myself to describe my dominance to him without using the vocabulary of the subculture. Like the tropes of kink, the vocabulary of kink is not mine. It might be a useful tool, some of it might crudely describe what I feel, but it really cannot be accurate to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think I don&#8217;t do this nearly often enough. I have definitely adopted a lot of mainstream BDSM vocabulary for simplicity&#8217;s sake, and that does bother me. (Not to mention the fact that a lot of the vocabulary wouldn&#8217;t even really make sense to someone who wasn&#8217;t already steeped in that culture.)</p>
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		<title>By: ranat</title>
		<link>http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/i-am-jealous-of-vanilla-people/#comment-510</link>
		<dc:creator>ranat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nameless - Trawling for what?

@thumper - Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nameless &#8211; Trawling for what?</p>
<p>@thumper &#8211; Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: thumper</title>
		<link>http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/i-am-jealous-of-vanilla-people/#comment-509</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My concept of my sexuality is largely driven by my desire to be active, the do-er of activities. But also to a lesser degree there is my desire to be receptive, the accepter of activities. My sexuality is about receiving control from another person that is freely given, and receiving trust, freely offered. It is about giving pleasure and pain. It is about stretching boundaries. It is about embracing someone with everything that I am.

I desire people who are receptive, and active participants in their own desire. I desire people who want to receive pain and pleasure, who want to give control over to me freely, who accept my trust. Who want me to stretch boundaries, theirs and my own, who open to me everything that they are.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Beautifully, wonderfully described.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My concept of my sexuality is largely driven by my desire to be active, the do-er of activities. But also to a lesser degree there is my desire to be receptive, the accepter of activities. My sexuality is about receiving control from another person that is freely given, and receiving trust, freely offered. It is about giving pleasure and pain. It is about stretching boundaries. It is about embracing someone with everything that I am.</p>
<p>I desire people who are receptive, and active participants in their own desire. I desire people who want to receive pain and pleasure, who want to give control over to me freely, who accept my trust. Who want me to stretch boundaries, theirs and my own, who open to me everything that they are.</p></blockquote>
<p>Beautifully, wonderfully described.</p>
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		<title>By: Nameless</title>
		<link>http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/i-am-jealous-of-vanilla-people/#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>Nameless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wolverine/Gambit slash? Yeah, baby!

Hm, I really should go trawling for new!K/new!S, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolverine/Gambit slash? Yeah, baby!</p>
<p>Hm, I really should go trawling for new!K/new!S, too.</p>
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		<title>By: ranat</title>
		<link>http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/i-am-jealous-of-vanilla-people/#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>ranat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can indeed tell. But Ireen is going to be writing Wolverine/Gambit slash, so there&#039;s a small spark of hope in the world, right?

I&#039;m feeling really challenged about not knowing what I want from experience. I can sift through all my repressed fantasies that I&#039;ve had all my life, searching for my basic desires, but part of me feels like there&#039;s no way to really know until I just do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can indeed tell. But Ireen is going to be writing Wolverine/Gambit slash, so there&#8217;s a small spark of hope in the world, right?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m feeling really challenged about not knowing what I want from experience. I can sift through all my repressed fantasies that I&#8217;ve had all my life, searching for my basic desires, but part of me feels like there&#8217;s no way to really know until I just do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nameless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nameless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, at least you know what you want, more or less. I still feel utterly clueless about that. I really have no idea how it&#039;s ever going to be possible for me to have a healthy sexual relationship with anyone.

Can you tell I&#039;m feeling a little down? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, at least you know what you want, more or less. I still feel utterly clueless about that. I really have no idea how it&#8217;s ever going to be possible for me to have a healthy sexual relationship with anyone.</p>
<p>Can you tell I&#8217;m feeling a little down? <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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