Comments on: Carol Berg and How She Unknowingly Writes My Porn http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/carol-berg-and-how-she-unknowingly-writes-my-porn/ an archeological excavation of the nature of a sadistic and dominant creature Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:45:00 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Glorious PORN by Carol Berg « beyond the hills http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/carol-berg-and-how-she-unknowingly-writes-my-porn/#comment-189 Glorious PORN by Carol Berg « beyond the hills Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:56:16 +0000 http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/?p=26#comment-189 [...] doubts I had about Carol being a sadist were put firmly to rest when I read on the back of “Flesh and Spirit” that the main [...] [...] doubts I had about Carol being a sadist were put firmly to rest when I read on the back of “Flesh and Spirit” that the main [...]

]]> By: Male Submission and Female Domination In Fine Literature « beyond the hills http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/carol-berg-and-how-she-unknowingly-writes-my-porn/#comment-8 Male Submission and Female Domination In Fine Literature « beyond the hills Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:37:01 +0000 http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/?p=26#comment-8 [...] as the series progresses, and whose main character resembles him suspiciously. Maybe, along with Carol Berg, he will also try to sue me for [...] [...] as the series progresses, and whose main character resembles him suspiciously. Maybe, along with Carol Berg, he will also try to sue me for [...]

]]> By: ranat http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/carol-berg-and-how-she-unknowingly-writes-my-porn/#comment-6 ranat Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:57:07 +0000 http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/?p=26#comment-6 You shouldn't tell me you won't always be in Australia because then I will think of how much EASIER it will be to kidnap you when you're not in Australia. As for your insight into the fantasy genre, yeah, I agree. I think there's also the rationalization that "Oh, none of this is real anyway, so who cares if they have a femdom society? It's only *fiction.*" I think people have problems imagining matriarchies or male service due to the encroachment of Western-flavor patriarchy to just about every corner of the world. So people have to step into another world in order for dominant women and submissive men to be believable. Carol Berg doesn't write male submission this explicitly, her male characters just have savior-syndrome, which according to the dominant culture is okay, because tortured men single-handedly saving the world is an acceptable trope (ala Jesus). You shouldn’t tell me you won’t always be in Australia because then I will think of how much EASIER it will be to kidnap you when you’re not in Australia.

As for your insight into the fantasy genre, yeah, I agree. I think there’s also the rationalization that “Oh, none of this is real anyway, so who cares if they have a femdom society? It’s only *fiction.*” I think people have problems imagining matriarchies or male service due to the encroachment of Western-flavor patriarchy to just about every corner of the world. So people have to step into another world in order for dominant women and submissive men to be believable.

Carol Berg doesn’t write male submission this explicitly, her male characters just have savior-syndrome, which according to the dominant culture is okay, because tortured men single-handedly saving the world is an acceptable trope (ala Jesus).

]]> By: maymay http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/carol-berg-and-how-she-unknowingly-writes-my-porn/#comment-2 maymay Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:21:56 +0000 http://beyondthehills.wordpress.com/?p=26#comment-2 I am totally going to have to Google "Carol Berg" now and at the very least check out the plot lines of some of her fantasy books. I think the Fantasy genre is the only one where there is any hotness of this kind because in order to feel safe thinking about the mainstream needs to create another world. The fact that it happens in this world, in a tragic way, more often than they'd like to admit is not what readers want to buy when they want to buy fantasy of this kind; they'd prefer to change the channel. In any event, thanks for the link back. For the record, I won't <em>always</em> be in Australia…. :) I am totally going to have to Google “Carol Berg” now and at the very least check out the plot lines of some of her fantasy books.

I think the Fantasy genre is the only one where there is any hotness of this kind because in order to feel safe thinking about the mainstream needs to create another world. The fact that it happens in this world, in a tragic way, more often than they’d like to admit is not what readers want to buy when they want to buy fantasy of this kind; they’d prefer to change the channel.

In any event, thanks for the link back. For the record, I won’t always be in Australia…. :)

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